Okay, so let me ask these questions: what can be done to support men that does not include ignoring or enabling bad behavior? What kind of support have men been given women that models the behavior they want themselves?

The good/bad conversation comes into play when you look at how each group fights for themselves. You say the red pill dudes aren’t about hating women but I continually hear terms like “simping,” “cock carousel,” and “the wall.” Maybe I’m just not radical enough that I don’t hear feminists hating on men like that. Feminism is anti patriarchy, not anti men.

Also, it absolutely cannot be denied that women have had it worse. Cannot factually deny that.